Mattthecat said:

MM305 said:

but if you find yourself dwelling or being surrounded by Western pop culture (for example), you'll noticed the heavy criticism/insults of idols/boy bands/girl groups of 1D, Fifth Harmony, JB, and others to name.

No I haven't noticed this to be a problem particular to boy-girl-etc groups.
There are people who hate this. And there are people who hate that. Some have reasons. Others don't.
Stop giving importance to these matters and it won't be a problem anymore.


PS: Might I say that in my youth I was a fan of Deep Purple and Led Zep. And we despised the Bay City Rollers with a vengeance!
In the end it's all irrelevant :-)

Invader said:

MM305 said:

I'm not saying it's a problem for boy bands/girl groups (especially since they are still successful either way). I'm pointing out that despite their undeniable success, they still get criticized heavily for playing the "love game" role. Search up any video about these idols I mentioned, and you'll read endless amount of insults and negativity.

And those who do such things to them and their fans for it are LIKELY people who are fans of idols themselves who play a similar role.

If you open any youtube video it's going to be filled with negativity, that's just how people work. Once again the thing you have to do is enjoy the things you like without worrying about what other people think.

I love japanese idols and some korean idols because I enjoy them more. It's actually easier for me to find japanese concerts thanks to JPS and H!O so I can watch a ton of performances which always helps me get more involved in the music. Once you go into the underground idol rabbit hole there's no coming back, and there are some things there that I can't find in the american/european mainstream idols.

If it makes anyone feel better I'll make the confession that back in the day I really liked Girls Aloud (Call the shots it's still awesome) :)) Boy groups are not for me, but I'm sure that if I give fifth harmony a chance I might enjoy them, and I actually think Ariana Grande has talent but usually she's not given the right songs for me to follow her.

At the end of the day I think the first thing any idol fan must learn is how to be open minded and know that not everyone is going to like the same things as you and other people might enjoy things you don't like, the key is just let everyone be happy with whatever groups they choose to follow. Thankfully mononofus tend to be some of the most welcoming people around.

honkey5 said:

what did i miss? is "let's troll mononofu" day or what?

MM305 said:

But now you all seem to get it

Mattthecat said:

MM305 said:

But now you all seem to get it

Man, it's torture not to reply to that!! Especially as it would be such an easy score...
But I'll be a good boy and refrain from doing so!

Mattthecat said:

*sigh*

Just forget it and let's move on

AMomonofu said:

I feel like we need a discussion to rant about things

honkey5 said:

Ok, i will say just this:

Opinions are good. Opinions are welcome. Even the most unpopular ones, since they sometimes make you see thing on a different way. Outside the box, so to speak.

BUT opinions are subjective.

And as such, they are susceptible of being not only refuted but even ridiculized. Because that's what is expected on a forum. Do you think Momoka is overrated as a singer? Good. But if you openly say so, dont expect people to pat you in the back and say "right? I think so too! Gimme five!" That isnt how things are. And even worse on a forum, when the anonimity of the net allows posters to be openly rude.


People should know better, that certain comments are bait for posters on a forum to go for the jugular over the OP, so...